Yep, without doubt the humblest Pope ever.
All the baptised are guaranteed that a place has been created for them in Heaven. All the baptised have not been guaranteed they will go to their place in Heaven, because we can, you know, lose it. Presumption is, last time I checked, a sin against the Holy Spirit. The missing phrase is "hope" or "hoping".
We should pray for His Holiness at this time and for his deceased loved ones. May their souls and the souls of the faithful departed, through the mercy of God, rest in peace.
79 comments:
Hmm... looks familiar, that chap!
Mr England clearly loves The Faith given us by Our Lord - that is why he defends its unchanging and unchangeable tenets. The Faith does not change just because things s pope says suggest so.
I don't know if any of your readers is fluent in Italian, Bones, but Antonio Socci just published something in his blog which appears to add additional information on the still undisclosed Secret of Fatima. I offer this link for anyone who would have a go at translation (other than a Google translate hash).
If Socci is correct, it may explain a number of things at present in both the Church and the world.
http://www.antoniosocci.com/2014/08/novita-apocalittiche-da-fatima-lultimo-mistero-il-silenzio-delle-suore-ma-chi-tace/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+LoStraniero+%28Lo+Straniero+-+Il+blog+di+Antonio+Socci%29
Liam Ronan. Translation here. http://www.ncregister.com/blog/pat-archbold/new-fatima-revelation/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Does anyone here really believe Bergoglio prays for anyone? Anyone? Absolutely anyone? What need could there possibly be in the mind of such an apostate?
The only relation Bergoglio has to fatima is that he will be celebrating five hundred years of Luther's poison upon the passion of Christ at Fatima's centenary. So he says God is going to give him two or three more years? How does he know this - has he alreadly scheduled in euthanisation? Or does he think he will die of happiness when he celebrates those centuries of Luther's lies on the life of Faith in the world? Bergoglio and his counterfiet church and counterfeit clergy preach lies and therfore teach hatred. unfortunately the sap of most human interaction is hatred - that's why we needed to invent manners - and there are no manners in hell. anyone lucky enough to have seen a demon (yes i mean lucky because its one of the best heads up that there is a hell you'll ever get) knows this. a demon looks speaks and does hatred - he has no manners and it's only the manners of heaven that remove their welcome mat. Bergoglio laughs and pats himself on the back about his indifference to souls and hell. If I didn't know better I'd think he was a dyed in the wool calvinist - convinced that the lost are lost and the saved are saved, and also convinced that he himself is one of the saved. Well, God isn't and never will be a calvinist a lutheran or any form of protestant. Imagine if he had ever said, there is no Lutheran God, or no Calvinist God, or no muslim God, or no jewish God, or no unworldly nirvana? He would have been telling the truth for once, at least. And then he could have done us all a favour by finishing off with, 'and by the way, there is a God and He is Catholic, oh not my sort of 'catholic' but that horrible old sort that really wants to save people from hell.'
Where else, other than "the Father's house", is anyone to go for judgement??? I know that Pope Francis sometimes (possible understatement?) suffers from foot-in-mouth syndrome but to accuse him of presumption is completely out of order. St Ignatius Loyola pointed out that, as Christians, we are all bound to put as good a construction upon each other's words as possible, but if we found this impossible we were to inquire of the speaker what they actually meant. Perhaps, seeing you have such difficulties with his utterances, you might be advised to write directly to him or try phoninging him! Who knows? He might even ring you up.
"...and the charity of most men will grow cold, as they see wickedness abound everywhere; but that man will be saved who endures to the last." Matthew 24:12 - 13
Let's have charity in all things even in those things which distress us the most so that we might endure to the end as Jesus clearly would have us do.
'There are many rooms in my Father's house.'
Our Lord was clear that this phrase means HEAVEN.
@Chloe,
Thanks for the link to the National Catholic Register's rendering of a part of Socci's blog. It is however a Google translation (abysmal) and doesn't translate the entire of Socci's post which is a much fuller explanation and puts the new Fatima information in more specific context.
@retrochbabe
Maureen, have you now decided to harass Laurence?
Remember what the Holy Father said "Who am I judge?". You seem to be doing an awful lot of judging here.
If you watch the Holy Father's comment you notice that he laughs straight after. I don't think he is being presumptious - just playful with words.
I find nothing amiss in what this topic says and in the manner in which it makes a point.
The Holy Father has suggested (if I may oversimplify) that it pretty much doesn't matter what faith, if any, you profess nor how you conduct yourself while on your earthly journey, i.e. who am I to judge. It doesn't really matter because we almost all (Mafiosi excluded) get to Our Father's House in the end.
Now this toss-off remark/joke of Francis' on the plane serves only (unfortunately) to reinforce this sort of universal salvation mind-set and worse, to confirm it for those who mistakenly subscribe to it and for whom damnation remains a real possibility whether they believe it or not.
If people would read what actually has been written by Bones and not use a word or two here and there as a kind of personal Rohrschach test after which they rashly intuit what Bones meant then the thrust of the opinion seems clear and genuinely educative.
As Phillipians 2:12 says:
"...work out your salvation with fear and trembling..." That means all of us from Pope to pauper.
Peace!
I cannot find any reference to the Pope ever mentioning purgatory and this worries me. Many of his comments also seem to indicate that he holds to universalism. He keeps reminding us that he is a sinner so Purgatory would surely be an expected detour for most Catholics. Pelerin says that the the Pope is being 'playful'. Being 'playful' about this particular subject is not what one expects from a Pope.
@retrochbabe
Maureen, I normally avoid engaging with those who protest against the teachings of the Church - you know, protestants.
You are a nasty and spiteful woman who spends far too much time abusing people online. You reject many teachings of the Church (I guess because you know better) and attack and harass those who commit the "sin" of orthodoxy.
Out of thin air you appear to abuse Laurence. Far from despising the religion to which Laurence belongs he quite clearly loves Our Lord and his Church. Judging by your oft repeated attacks on Catholics online I can only guess you are projecting here.
Or, are you just a troll looking for a reaction?
I'm not a great admirer of pope Francis, but there's reasonable criticism and then there's constant carping and picking at everything he says (I think we all know by now he's virtually untranslatable). I'd give it a rest.
And it was perhaps unfortunate that you posted this the day the poor man lost several members of his family.
Celia is right Poor judgement to post on such a day or any day If all you can do is Carp and encourage dissent As to the lies of the anon I will not respond
It was one day in December
As far as I remember
When tottling down the street in tipsy pride
No-one was I deceiving
When I lay down in the kerbing
And a pig came up and lay down by my side.
As I lay there in the gutter
Thinking thoughts I dare not utter
An old lady passing by was heard to say
You can tell a man who boozes
By the company he chooses
And the pig got up and slowly walked away.
@retrochbabe,
I don't see where Celeia said anything about 'poor judgement' as you suggest (a misquote allowing you to take the ad hominem jab at Bones).
I do see where Celia mentioned that the timing of this post was 'unfortunate'owing to the pope having had several members of his family die tragically shortly following his remarks which are the subject matter of this particular blog post.
Nontheless, I believe the topicality of this particular utterance by the Pope wants airing.
Just read this report on the newswire:
FOX NEWS LATINO
"Pope Francis Drafts Messi, Maradona And Others To Play In Soccer Match For Peace In Gaza"
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/sports/2014/08/13/pope-francis-drafts-messi-and-maradona-to-play-in-soccer-match-for-peace-in/
@retrochbabe
If anyone thinks I am speaking calumny of Maureen all they have to do is check out her own twitter account.
I find it absurd that Maureen accuses anyone of dissent when she herself dissents from the teachings of the Church on so many issues. I raised the following with her on Protect the Pope some time ago without an answer :
"Do you accept in full the Church’s teaching on homosexuality?
I didn’t ask about the Sacrament of Marriage. Am I to take it that your pointed distinction shows you DO support the redefinition of marriage to allow people of the same sex to marry each other?
If you think I have shown any malice in asking a polite question then I would suggest you are being overly sensitive.
The following is just a selection of your views shared on twitter :
http://imgur.com/GuxavLA
http://imgur.com/OFlJnuy
You seem to dissent from Church teaching. An orthodox Catholic accepts everything the Church teaches."
http://protectthepope.com/?p=8992
Maureen, you have written to numerous bishops and everyone else apart from Uncle Tom Cobley about those you dislike. You spend your days attacking anyone who simply professes what the Church teaches.
Is Laurence now your latest target for bullying and abuse?
Lawrence
I respect the Pope because he is entitled to my lovinggrowing to ;ike him as respect and support. I am actually growing to like him the more I listen to him.
He is a humble man, imho. He is not guilty of a sin against the Holy Spirit as you suggest.
Nearly 70 years ago I learnt the catechism answer that Presumption is a sin against HOPE, because presumption is A FOOLISH EXPECTATION of Salvation WITHOUT MAKING USE of the necessary means to attain it. That is sTILL THE DEFINITION OF PRESEMPTION.
I expect our Holy Father does not neglect to use the necessary aids etc.
The way you attack and sneer at the Pope reminds me of Voltaire, he never attacked the Church, he sneered at it He was a devil vomited out of the mouth of hell, as Msgr Philip Hughes described him in his history books.,,,.
I respectfully suggest for your own salvation sake that you reflect prayerfully on the possibility of the sins of calumny and detraction in your blog.
Every Good wish.
Dear efpastoremeritus2.com,
May I ask you a question in all sincerity?
What is your understanding of the concept of "Extra ecclesiam nulla salus"?
Pope Francis', in my estiamtion, comes very very close to supporting, if not positively advocating, the proposition of universal salvation and that there is no need to proselytize our fellow man for all (or certainly most) are on their way to salvation without benefit of membership in the Catholic Church.
I think Lawrence intended to underscore this apparent predilection of Pope Francis and expressed the matter in a way designed to provoke thought amongst the readers of is blog.
Yours in Jesus and Mary,
Liam Ronan
I try not to be too proud either. After all my span of life left is some years plus or minus whatever and before I know it I too will be in Heaven.
as a believer I think it is an obligation to 'carp and pick' at satan parading as Christ's Vicar - His Chosen First Shepherd and Steward for poor souls on earth - for as long as the parody is believed. Who knows, the souls of those who were related to him who have, like Palmer and the poor chap who got squashed by the demonic 'crucifix' in honor of wojtyla and a few others, met their personal judgement, might just have been saved by a bit of the 'carping and picking' on this side of the grave, while Truth was still able to be 'painted over' with frankinchurch lies.
Mr. Ronan,
My understanding of ""Extra ecclesiam nulla salus" is that no one is saved outside the Church and that anyone who is saved obtains that Salvation through Jesus Christ and His Church, whether the saved person knows it or not.
A mundane, though hopefully not irreverent comparison, might be an example of me being saved, medically, by many people in an operating theatre , even though I may never know or meet them or the people far away who made the instruments or medications. Another example could be that my thirst is assuaged by water....where it came from or who contributed to its purification could be unknown to me yet save my life.
Finally the Doctrine of the Mystical Body teaches how the "strong" help "the weak".
None of the foregoing is to argue against the reality of sin....we need only look at the Cruciific or at the suffering in families and nations to see its reality.
I assume no one is attempting to deny the virtue of Hope or the reality of the sins against again...despair and presumption.
Dear efpastoremeritus2.com,
How can you possibly compare Mr. Bones to the vile Voltaire...I've been following his blog for years ...it's a beautiful truly Catholic blog...and I have never - not once seen vileness in his articles that you could compare with the creep Voltaire'e "kill the wretch"!
Slight problem with discernment and good sense here...
There is nothing wrong with questioning the non-infallible words of a pope ....it is quite Catholic sir, and Mr. Bones has the gift of irony ...so why not use it here? There is not a trace of sneering , as you say ...or I most certainly wouldn't be here...
Barbara
Every good Catholic has a duty to point out that what the Pope said does not reflect the teaching of Christ and His Holy Church. Particularly to vulnerable souls who are easily led astray, and they are many. Blessed Michael, the Archangel, defend us in battle . . .
@efpastoremeritus2.com,
Thank you for taking the time to respond to me. I appreciate it. The question of who might be saved notwithstanding their ignorance of the true Church of Christ inevitably comes up when we speak of matters of evangelization and hope.
I attach here a link on invincible ignorance which I find most instructive and offer it to you for a read whenever you might be disposed to have a read of it.
Yours in Jesus and Mary,
"Invincible or Inculpable Ignorance Neither Saves nor Damns a Person" by Father Michael Müller, C.Ss.R.
http://www.cfnews.org/page88/files/77982a376d9f1b199810842b1f158b8e-203.html
Dear Barbara (Anonymous at 8.40)
Absolutely not comparing Lawrence with Voltaire. Latter hated the Church, the former loves it. I may have inelegantly expressed it but Lawrence's constant Carping at Peter in a sneering fashion...however well intended...does remind me of Voltaire.
I am genuinely distressed by the sneering....and I believe it will do more harm than good.
Dear efpastoremeritus2.com,
Good we cleared that misunderstanding up about Voltaire then, thank you for this.
I may be wrong , and of course Mr. Bones can correct me, but I think "the carping on about the Pope" as you call it, is merely an expression of his great dis- ease (discomfort) with many of the things the present Pope has said and done, which have left me often dumbfounded. Sadly I'm getting used to this strange Pope's unorthodox ways. Mr. Bones also provides a space for like-minded concerned Catholic to express their worries about the same. And for this I thank him. There maybe some commenters who go over the top sometimes - which they have to examine their own conscience about as I do mine. (I have regretted posting comments in the past - and tend to be more careful now). I think we can all agree that we can all improve our ways of expressing things - Mr. Bones included. I find his Catholicism most straightforward and clear as well as his own personal comments. No - not sneering at all. He would upset Our Lady too much if he did that - and he won't do that - I just know it.
Thanks again and God bless you!
Barbara
There are indeed many ways to get a point across. John 18:22-23 recounts Jesus using a rhetorical question (He used irony, Socratic, and other methods at times as well):
"When he spoke thus, one of the officers, who was standing by, struck Jesus on the cheek; Is this, he said, how thou makest answer to the high priest? If there was harm in what I said, Jesus answered, tell us what was harmful in it; if not, why dost thou strike me?" - I presume Jesus knew precisely why He was struck. He spoke the Truth and there was no retort to be made by the officer other than blind rage.
There was no lack of brickbats from St. Paul and the saints when they found it necessary to make a point or draw out discussion.
One of my favourite quotes is that from St. Teresa of Avila:
"Dear Lord, if this is how You treat Your friends, it is no wonder You have so few!"
- Said as she was bucked off her horse into a river on the way to visit one of her monasteries. -
The truth-speaker is attacked for telling the truth. No wonder the crisis in the Church gets worse and worse when the Pope continually does things which contradict the Deposit of Faith and Catholics who would always have condemned such actions before Francis was Pope, are silently acquiescent. St John Vianney, pray for us.
"Every good Catholic has a duty to point out that what the Pope said does not reflect the teaching of Christ and His Holy Church. Particularly to vulnerable souls who are easily led astray, and they are many"
I think that Lynda 'hits the nail on the head' with this comment. We cannot just ignore the several statements by the Pope that appear to contradict/throw into question/appear not to support etc. Church teaching. We must say something and, if we have it wrong OK but if not, we need to shout and do so loudly.
Liam Ronan: grazie per il vincolo, vado vedere ...
@Hans Georg Lundahl,
Thank you. I'd like to see what you come up with.
This is the first time I have read this type of Blog and the last .I find it offensive
This sounds like the comment of a Sedevacantist
Martin Luther has been recognised as a person with much to learn from by both Benedict and Francis Look it up
Wow this comment which is nothing at all to do with the Blog comes out of the blue .Full of anger and dislike of an opinion There seems to be a hidden agenda here
I am amazed An Anonymous account A person who dare not own his own identity speaks in such an uncharitable way about anyone is ridiculous Is there some reason you hide apart from cowardly smearing others ?
Hahaha Do you seriously think I hobnob with Bishops ? Where do you get your gossip from ?
There is no 'measure of goodwill' in the anonymous comments I have seen on this blog There is a serious reason to question the Religious mania (for want of a better expression )which expresses itself in such a venomous way I will avoid any contact with this Blog in future I find it offensive UnCatholic
@retrochbabe
Maureen, I am pleased you deleted you more abusive comments above.
I think you would be happier on a protestant blog where you can extol the virtues of Luther to your hearts content. I am sure you will find like minds to attack the Church and its teachings.
I do hope that at some point you may return to the teachings of the Church.
I did not delete my comments because they were Abusive They were not.i deleted them because I realised there is no way a rational person can argue with the right wing Jensenist style of this Blog or your evil and spiteful malicious comments about me .I pity your narrow minded view of the Church and pray that one day you will see the error of your ways Religious mania of the worst sort where you portray the rest of the world as Heretics and yourself as a Saint Shame on you to call yourself even Christian
@Petrus
This Retrochbabe woman writes to bishops about people she dislikes? What is this?
Alex.
This Blog is not the place to carry out a malicious vendetta against me Read the thread Petrus attacks me for no reason ,off subject and ridiculous I hope this will stop now he has been exposed as a gossip and a liar
@anonymous
Yes, she has written to Bishop Conry that I am aware of. She has also written to employers.
The reason for this is that she has disagreed with people. She has engaged in a prolonged period of bullying and harassment against multiple people online and offline.
Maureen has come out with statements that are pro-choice. She accuses anyone who holds to the teaching of the Church on homosexuality as "homophobic".
Maureen abuses people online and Laurence is simply the latest on her list of targets. I think her comments above are the first example I have seen of what Fr. Z often refers to as a "spittle flecked nutty"
Alex
Maureen (Retrochbabe) wrote a letter of complaint to the Headmaster of a school where a young man works and put in an official complaint to his diocesan bishop after he responded to her goading with the pithy, if slightly coarse, phrase "no spats with twats".
Why did the young man attract Maureen's ire? He had been conversing sympathetically with a 3rd party for whom she harbours an un-Christian loathing.
The response from the Bishop's PA was "don't worry, we consider Maureen a pest" which indicates previous form.
It is regrettable if unsurprising that Laurence is her new target. She does the rounds of the "traddies", fixating on individuals such as Nick Donnelly and possessing a visceral hatred for any orthodox individuals whom she considers must be right wing converts.
Oh dear I'm afraid your lies will be found out now as I have sent this whole conversation to Bishop Conry
You are saying that I wrote letters to employers This is not the case You are saying the Bishops office had breached confidentiality His P A has abused me by calling me a pest ? Are you privy to all confidences at the Bishops office ? This is a scandal that needs investigating Heads will roll
Maureen, my dear babe, if you're writing to Bishop Conry could you ask him just what game he thinks he's playing by cosying up to ACTA? Thanks.
@Petrus Why did this Retrochbabe write to bishop Conry?
Alex
@retrochbabe
You earlier stated that you hadn't written to any bishops. In the same comment you called me a liar for stating you did. You have now deleted this comment.
It now appears that you are no longer denying that you did write to at least one Bishop. What you are now complaining about is a breach of confidence. It appears that you have been exposed as a liar and now are battling a rear guard action to save face.
Still you accuse me of lies - when I have been proven right once do you really want to carry on with that?
@Alex
I didn't have the above incident in mind when I mentioned that Maureen had written to the Bishop. It appears that Maureen has written to Bishop Conry on several occasions to complain about people.
I am unaware of Maureen writing letters to peoples employers - however I am aware of emails she has written.
@retrochbabe
Maureen if calling you a "pest" is abuse then I suggest you take a long hard look in the mirror. The abuse you have dished out on this thread alone is far worse.
@Petrus
What is the incident of retrochbabe writing to bishop conry that you know about?
Why did she do it?
Alex.
Oh dear.Anon has caused a scandal here - reporting second hand gossip from the Bishops office Wouldn't like to go to Confession any where near him/her
I have not written to Bishop Conry on several occasions to complain about people You are mistaken in this I have emailed his office when a paid member of the Diocese youth team insulted and abused me I received a profuse apology and reassurance this abuse would stop It seems this is not the case as confidentiality has been broken by a mole who is reporting information from the Bishops office via the WWW Heads should roll for this It is my right as a woman as a Catholic to object to malicious abuse .all sent now to the Bishop Thank you for uncovering this scandal
Dear Anon-Alex I take a wild guess as to who you are.Petrus has called me a liar because I do not agree with his comments about my spirituality my religion.He started this abuse of me on this blog because I did not like criticism of the Pope .It seems you are privy to the Bishops PA s comments I wonder how that happened You are not to be trusted it seems Friends take note
Is a head teacher not an employer? She made a similar threat to contact another person's head teacher on the basis of a personal animus, but got the identity of the person wrong.
This lady stalks the Catholic blogosphere abusing, harassing & mocking people then putting in vexatious complaints if they respond.
It might be best to pre-emptively block her on social media and ban her IP from blog coms boxes.
@Alex
The incident I had in mind was Maureen writing to the Bishop as an act of spite. She took exception to the person in question (a layperson) and the views they held. The person in question simply presented views held by the Church. Maureen viewed this person as an intolerant, homophobic bigot because of these views. As such, in Maureen's opinion this person wasn't fit to have any involvement in anything that might be connected with the Church. Maureen also contacted this person's employers seeking to have them removed from employment.
Maureen uses the internet to attack the Church on a regular basis. She cites the likes of Kung, Tony Flannery and the New Ways ministry on a regular basis.
Kung has had his licence to teach stripped.
Tony Flannery has had his faculties removed and the reason given by the Prefect of the CDF at the time were his heretical views.
In 2010, Cardinal Francis George, Archbishop of Chicago and President of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB), stated that "the New Ways Ministry for homosexual Catholics does not present an authentic view of Catholic teaching. Rather, it confuses the faithful about the Church’s efforts to defend traditional marriage and to minister to homosexual persons"
I am aghast at these lies Prove them Show me these fictitious letters emails? God knows I've heard some rubbish about me on here but this is nonsense
'Tis very odd that someone who hates this blog and said they wouldn't return to it has posted at least 15 comments on this thread...
Barbara
@Petrus
Who is the person that retrochbabe wrote to the bishop about that you are talking about?
Alex
Dear Barbara Someone Anon who actually has been feeding false information about me and also says the Bishops PA has breached confidentiality along with Petrus should say how they justify this Using this blog to smear my reputation and that of the Bishops office.we all know the person who has done this .is behind this vendetta She is very very wrong and I hope there is just retribution dealt out to her
Let's cut to the chase here.I can only guess the person who has fed you these one sided ideas and who you protect and admire so much is the very same vicars wife who took im ridge at me unfollowing her two years ago because ever since she has kept up a campaign of misinformation She did not complain about my views before this.I am sorry that she is too cowardly to own up as to her true person it use someone's blog to carry on insulting me You are just someone she is using to do this .As it seems I wish her or you no ill will in your views on the direction of the Church under Pope Francis What does this say about you both Far more than the words you spew out God Bless and apologies to the Blog owner although he is also one person who's views I do not adhere to ,for your and her spite and malice
I've written to Bishop Conry 15 times this week, using my best green ink, and asking him to confirm that I've never contacted him. No reply so far, so I'll send a few reminders.
@Alex
Who isn't important. We have clarified that Maureen has written to the Bishop's office.
@Maureen
You can't have it both ways.
If as you said, I was lying and you did not write to the Bishops office then there is no breach of confidence.
However IF there is a breach of confidence - that means you were lying and you did in fact write to the Bishop.
By the way, I think you are doing a wonderful job in smearing your own reputation. Just think how much better things would be if you hadn't decided to start leaving abusive comments on here?
Careful... that sounds like calumny to me, sister Babe.
@Maureen
I don't know any vicars or their wives.
The only reason I engaged with you on here is because out of the blue you started abusing Laurence. You were rather judgemental.
If you want to disagree with Laurence, well fine. Don't however expect to be able to post abuse without a response.
Oh Maureen does expect to post abuse without a response. When Maureen abuses people its because she is fighting the good fight against the nasty chauvinistic church. When others abuse her it is an injustice which needs to be fought with smears and complaints. Maureen definitely does write to bishops. And to employers and editors. She tries hard to smear people who disagree with her. Thats why she gets annoyed at people who are anonymous -- because there is nobody to complain to. She thinks that if she can smear every orthodox catholic then eventually the church will have to change its cruel, nasty teachings (Booooo Hiss!)
This is an open Blog .If I had known only a select few were allowed to comment ....I often see you passing comments on others more mostly attacking me Do you have a problem with women ? As to the Anon you know who it is as I do The blog owner does too and has broken his own rules for a friend Let the Bishops PA sort this out Repeating gossip is a sin you know
As soon as I saw this picture I should have known the whole blog was one of your jokes
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....................good night all. Will ya just give it a rest or take it outside.
Peace.
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