On the subject of abortion did you see the recent report in the Daily Mail on abortion pills being sold for just 78p on line? Apparently they are available 'on hundreds of websites.'
The phrases which stuck out for me were 'BUT THEY CAN KILL or cause serious side-effects.' And 'THE ABORTION PILL CAN PROVE FATAL.' I don't think the writer realised how true his words were but of course he was only thinking about the mothers.
That departed priest was Fr. Aristi, he was the one that celebrated my parents marriage and baptized me and my brothers. He was an saintly Priest and a great confessor.
May that stolen Rosary helps the Holy Father to refrain the impulses of his inner thief.
The theft of relics from the bodies of recently- and even not so recently- deceased saints is so longstanding as to be virtually traditional. Some holy corpses had to be redressed before the burial as a consequence of people taking snips of their clothing. I think that St Francis Xavier even had a toe bitten off by a relic hunter and that the entire body of St Mark the Evangelist was stolen from Alexandria by Venetians whose patron saint he became.
It is an invasion of the body of a person which must continue to be respected. And of course it is not moral to steal anything from the body of a dead person. Someone put the rosary there. It was intended to be buried with the body of the priest.
See Mario Palmaro's last essay on the Church surrendering to evil. May he rest in peace. He's done a great service to the Church by his perseverance in truth despite the great intimidation.
"Dead people do not have possessions" Quite right. Their possessions however pass to their executors. Anyone who takes property from a dead person is under a duty to pass it to his executors or administrators or to ensure that the deceased's wishes are fulfilled in respect of that property. Legally anyone who takes some property is "intermeddling" and becomes an "Executor de son tort" i.e. he must follow the wishes of the deceased. A very strange story from Pope Francis.
"the entire body of St Mark the Evangelist was stolen from Alexandria by Venetians whose patron saint he became."
There is some debate about that Patricious. I read that the Christians in Alexandria asked two devout merchants from Venice to carry the body of St. Mark to Venice(I beleive in the nineth century) because of the fear of Muslims desecrating it. In fact the merchants smuggled his body out in their ship - first protecting it with cabbage leaves and then pork meat - so that the Muslims would not examine the contents.
HRY LAURENCE! Hate to SHOUT but The Remnant has mistakenly attributed your Littel Book of Insults work to CNN. Since The Remnant are our brothers you may want to gently draw you attention to it. Peace http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/378-the-francis-effect-a-gathering-storm
If Benedict had told this story then all the commentators here would all be claiming how quaint it was and it would be cited as proof of his innate holiness. Honestly, don't you think there's some feigned outrage at play here?
@Fr Mark, If you will grant that Caesar's wife must be beyond reproach how then the Vicar of Christ? This admission is unwise at best. It is akin to parents reciting their heretofore unknown sinful peccadilloes and foibles to their children and not only senselessly running the risk of scandalizing the children and devaluing their esteem in the children's eyes but also suggesting 'if it was ok for your old man it's ok for you'. My outrage is not in the least bit feigned and I assure you you would never ever hear such a foolish anecdote from the Pope Emeritus.
With Bones indulgence I'll add just another thought or two and then I'm quits with this matter. (1) If this deceased priest took a vow of poverty then everything he had (rosary included) would have been the property of his religious order, not his; (2) If this priest was a saintly confessor (as I gather) than there must have been a whole host of grateful penitents who would have nicked this rosary as a momento if they knew the rosary was up for grabs for anyone who'd just reach in the coffin; (3) If one's mother were in the coffin and wanted to be buried with her wedding band, would it be right for a child of hers to remove it from her finger while she lay in the coffin? To what end then did the Pope find it necessary to disclose this Artful Dodger moment to the Faithful? Sad. Pray for this Pope.
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ReplyDeletethe cry of those who have no voice...shhhhhhhh...frankie is saying something.
Is it not very odd to take a rosary or a part thereof from a dead person's fingers when he has been laid out?
ReplyDeleteOn the subject of abortion did you see the recent report in the Daily Mail on abortion pills being sold for just 78p on line? Apparently they are available 'on hundreds of websites.'
ReplyDeleteThe phrases which stuck out for me were 'BUT THEY CAN KILL or cause serious side-effects.' And 'THE ABORTION PILL CAN PROVE FATAL.' I don't think the writer realised how true his words were but of course he was only thinking about the mothers.
Reply to it.
DeleteThis story is so bizarre. Can you imagine PBXVI stealing the rosary out of a dead man's hands?
ReplyDeletenooo.it's not odd or bizarre.......
ReplyDeleteit is THEFT!
As an 8 year-old I once nicked a beer from the parish priest after he'd dozed-off at our family picnic.
ReplyDeleteThat departed priest was Fr. Aristi, he was the one that celebrated my parents marriage and baptized me and my brothers.
ReplyDeleteHe was an saintly Priest and a great confessor.
May that stolen Rosary helps the Holy Father to refrain the impulses of his inner thief.
The theft of relics from the bodies of recently- and even not so recently- deceased saints is so longstanding as to be virtually traditional. Some holy corpses had to be redressed before the burial as a consequence of people taking snips of their clothing. I think that St Francis Xavier even had a toe bitten off by a relic hunter and that the entire body of St Mark the Evangelist was stolen from Alexandria by Venetians whose patron saint he became.
ReplyDeleteIt's NOT theft. A dead man, even a dead priest, does not NEED a rosary. Dead people do not have possessions.
ReplyDeleteIt is an invasion of the body of a person which must continue to be respected. And of course it is not moral to steal anything from the body of a dead person. Someone put the rosary there. It was intended to be buried with the body of the priest.
ReplyDeleteSee Mario Palmaro's last essay on the Church surrendering to evil. May he rest in peace. He's done a great service to the Church by his perseverance in truth despite the great intimidation.
ReplyDelete"Dead people do not have possessions" Quite right. Their possessions however pass to their executors. Anyone who takes property from a dead person is under a duty to pass it to his executors or administrators or to ensure that the deceased's wishes are fulfilled in respect of that property. Legally anyone who takes some property is "intermeddling" and becomes an "Executor de son tort" i.e. he must follow the wishes of the deceased. A very strange story from Pope Francis.
ReplyDelete"the entire body of St Mark the Evangelist was stolen from Alexandria by Venetians whose patron saint he became."
ReplyDeleteThere is some debate about that Patricious. I read that the Christians in Alexandria asked two devout merchants from Venice to carry the body of St. Mark to Venice(I beleive in the nineth century) because of the fear of Muslims desecrating it. In fact the merchants smuggled his body out in their ship - first protecting it with cabbage leaves and then pork meat - so that the Muslims would not examine the contents.
Barbara
HRY LAURENCE!
ReplyDeleteHate to SHOUT but The Remnant has mistakenly attributed your Littel Book of Insults work to CNN. Since The Remnant are our brothers you may want to gently draw you attention to it.
Peace
http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/378-the-francis-effect-a-gathering-storm
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2014/02/19/the-pope-francis-little-book-of-insults/
Sorry Laurence for the many typos in my last submission. Just wanted to pass on the news to you asap. Cheers!
ReplyDeleteI see The Remnant has published your clarification, Bones. All's well that ends well.
ReplyDeleteIf Benedict had told this story then all the commentators here would all be claiming how quaint it was and it would be cited as proof of his innate holiness. Honestly, don't you think there's some feigned outrage at play here?
ReplyDelete@Fr Mark,
ReplyDeleteIf you will grant that Caesar's wife must be beyond reproach how then the Vicar of Christ?
This admission is unwise at best. It is akin to parents reciting their heretofore unknown sinful peccadilloes and foibles to their children and not only senselessly running the risk of scandalizing the children and devaluing their esteem in the children's eyes but also suggesting 'if it was ok for your old man it's ok for you'.
My outrage is not in the least bit feigned and I assure you you would never ever hear such a foolish anecdote from the Pope Emeritus.
With Bones indulgence I'll add just another thought or two and then I'm quits with this matter.
ReplyDelete(1) If this deceased priest took a vow of poverty then everything he had (rosary included) would have been the property of his religious order, not his;
(2) If this priest was a saintly confessor (as I gather) than there must have been a whole host of grateful penitents who would have nicked this rosary as a momento if they knew the rosary was up for grabs for anyone who'd just reach in the coffin;
(3) If one's mother were in the coffin and wanted to be buried with her wedding band, would it be right for a child of hers to remove it from her finger while she lay in the coffin?
To what end then did the Pope find it necessary to disclose this Artful Dodger moment to the Faithful?
Sad. Pray for this Pope.
Fr. Mark - you are totally wrong - and miss the point completely - I say this with all due respect..
ReplyDeleteBarbara