tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post8367065301856383504..comments2024-01-08T10:10:48.074+00:00Comments on That The Bones You Have Crushed May Thrill: Why Fr Alexander Lucie Smith is Wrong and the Pope is RightThe Boneshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10271719805983763595noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-80347008569223655922014-07-17T17:53:28.635+01:002014-07-17T17:53:28.635+01:00I am deeply saddened to see a comparison of those ...I am deeply saddened to see a comparison of those campaigning for the 'rights' of paedophiles to those of the gay community. It is crass and deeply misleading. Whatever your personal or moral belief a consenting relationship between adults should never be compared to the abuse of a child. Nawomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-13102038883004118362013-07-30T17:48:03.694+01:002013-07-30T17:48:03.694+01:00Bones, I think what you say is very true but in pa...Bones, I think what you say is very true but in particular when you mentioned the super-elite and State-driven dystopia, that sounded a chord... and I am no tinfoil hat wearer. <br /><br />It's been my feeling for a long time that these people will encourage legalisation/ liberalisation of almost anything that has up to now been taboo, in the interests of weakening social structures in general and in particular those that could be described as based on Judaeo-Christian morality, since a panem et circenses society will be too stupified by its desires and therefore easily panicked into choosing whatever a controlled media will paint as being for the preservation of its own comforts. Initiatives such as legalisation of drugs (but take your pick really among the many such "liberalising" trends currently on offer) are just one more step towards that future. <br /> <br />However as soon as they've achieved the measure of control they desire over our wasted society: BAM!! The shutters will come down big time and the real controls will be put in place. And many of those whom they will regard as human waste will be the first to be removed from circulation. Maybe terminally. <br /><br />We've seen it again and again. How likely are total control freaks, which is what these people are, (albeit now posing as champions of liberty) to permit any sort of behaviour that could adversely affect their own comfort and control? So that's it for all those whose addictions, narcotic, sexual or otherwise, will prevent them from being productive. And that will be the only end of man, to be a drone, since nothing exists beyond this life. <br /><br />Moral? Well yes, actually, in an inverted way, since by their lights "morals" will be what they say they are at any given time. Il Duce ha sempre ragione and all that.jaykayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09067428827648309867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-31568452095025566212013-07-28T21:09:40.617+01:002013-07-28T21:09:40.617+01:00Nicholas
I'll make myself clearer. The thing ...Nicholas<br /><br />I'll make myself clearer. The thing that worries me about this is that he says in relation to his own research on the scriptures and HV, and what I assume was a book/booklet proposal (?), "Catholic publishers said it wasn't Catholic enough". That does beg the question, why so? That doesn't necessarily rule out that it wasn't orthodox, but it is I think a strange comment to make. The tone of the article worries me as well because with the Rowan Williams quotes thrown in he seems to be hinting at reconciling the irreconcilable. Granted we all read these things differently though, I'll believe Bones when he says Fr ALS is orthodox. That's what I'd heard too as well.BJChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07593104081224026799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-81173617087780463102013-07-28T18:46:41.558+01:002013-07-28T18:46:41.558+01:00BJC: I have looked at the blog you give the URL f...BJC: I have looked at the blog you give the URL for. I cannot see that Father Lucie Smith is anything other than orthodox about HV as he encourages us to read it as a path to remedying our situation.<br /><br />Nicolas Bellordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08063019108964247676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-57339425553784278782013-07-28T09:46:16.928+01:002013-07-28T09:46:16.928+01:00Bones
Fine, I'll take your word for it. I jus...Bones<br /><br />Fine, I'll take your word for it. I just find this a strange thing to say.BJChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07593104081224026799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-91245091047563535352013-07-27T21:06:12.177+01:002013-07-27T21:06:12.177+01:00I know Fr ALS personally and I know he is a sound,...I know Fr ALS personally and I know he is a sound, orthodox priest, who, for the record, loves the Holy Tradition of the Church and the Mass of Ages.The Boneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10271719805983763595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-64162379286045992492013-07-27T21:01:29.902+01:002013-07-27T21:01:29.902+01:00Just found this curious quote by Fr. ALS on Humana...Just found this curious quote by Fr. ALS on Humanae Vitae, the orthodox view of which he seems to reject.<br /><br />"I myself thought this worth doing – exploring the scriptures and looking at the teaching of Humanae Vitae through scriptural lenses, but no one was interested. Catholic publishers said it wasn’t Catholic enough and non-Catholic publishers said it was too Catholic."<br /><br />http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2012/03/23/what-is-sex-for/BJChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07593104081224026799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-33684105636272980632013-07-27T17:38:35.319+01:002013-07-27T17:38:35.319+01:00The way I was taught it at school getting slightly...The way I was taught it at school getting slightly drunk is a venial sin, getting totally drunk is a mortal sin and taking drugs is a mortal sin full stop. What Fr ALS is therefore recommending is that we legalise a mortal sin - that really is madness. If this is the sort of crooked thinking you develop when you become a doctor of moral theology then I don't want to be a doctor of moral theology, I'll just use my common sense instead. Can't help thinking that mixed up with his reasoning is a proportionalist or consequentionalist approach to moral theolgy because no doubt (?) he's against the legalisation of abortion and pornography which as far as I'm concerned are identical situations.<br /><br />I think you really hit the nail on the head with these quotes:<br /><br />(1) "Where does the Devil stand on this issue?"<br /><br />(2) "We can see Satan's hand in the gradual overturning of Christian laws in the common good of society masking itself as kindness, tolerance and even 'love'."<br /><br />You take a spiritual approach but he takes the secular one, and you end up with the right answer.BJChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07593104081224026799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-9243649662781485922013-07-27T15:37:04.424+01:002013-07-27T15:37:04.424+01:00An excellent post,I absolutely agree with you. An excellent post,I absolutely agree with you. umblepiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13455889107917179909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-86822359011783436232013-07-27T14:55:08.978+01:002013-07-27T14:55:08.978+01:00Another excellent post Lawrence, refuting ALS mudd...Another excellent post Lawrence, refuting ALS muddled thinking. I personally favour extreme penalties for drug traffickers. <br /><br />Anyone caught in Malaysia with more than 16gm of heroin or 200gm of marijuana and subsequently convicted faces a mandatory death penalty.<br /><br />Fr Alexander Lucie Smith is rapidly becoming a loose cannon. Last week he was playing down the threat of the homosexual agenda, and on the Catholic Herald's Website we have the comforting news that the leader of Stonewall does not regard religion as evil or wicked. Isn't that gracious of him?<br /><br />Well I have news for you Mr Summerskill - the Catholic Church regards the practices you advocate as a grave depravity and against natural law. johnfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16233791349837340770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-49140724018002945472013-07-27T14:27:39.199+01:002013-07-27T14:27:39.199+01:00Many thanks for this excellent and eloquent accoun...Many thanks for this excellent and eloquent account. Though I like and respect Fr Lucie Smith very much, I think that on this issue I incline to your views.<br />One small point: It is my understanding that in fact the number of abortions has fallen in the last 12 months (though the number of late abortions for handicaps {including for hare lip] has increased). No doubt, however, this is because they don't reckon the use of the abortion pill into their accounting.Pastor in Montehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05949810648656544072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-74924061090057778042013-07-27T12:39:49.110+01:002013-07-27T12:39:49.110+01:00Thank you for a deep and ballanced appraisal of th...Thank you for a deep and ballanced appraisal of this complex subject. I have been a drug worker in the past and can vouch for everything you say.<br />God Bless you.Bob Brookeshttp://www.bobbrookes.co.uknoreply@blogger.com