tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post5259455406828823287..comments2024-01-08T10:10:48.074+00:00Comments on That The Bones You Have Crushed May Thrill: Look, Everybody...The Boneshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10271719805983763595noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-71925465730507704492010-06-10T19:03:15.497+01:002010-06-10T19:03:15.497+01:00no my argument is not against classifying teenager...no my argument is not against classifying teenagers as adults. As clearly stated, the offence is Laurence's suggestion that gay men prey on youngsters. It is no more true than the general population.Stupid women!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-48717122121731247642010-05-25T16:56:28.244+01:002010-05-25T16:56:28.244+01:00reply to pilgrim said...
pilgrim - it wasn't ...reply to pilgrim said... <br />pilgrim - it wasn't criticsm it was downright offence. laurence said that gay people prey on youngsters, as you know the scientific literature shows that the proportion of peadophiles in the gay community is not greater than the general population. gay people are padophiles is an unfounded urban myth spread by homphobes like laurence.<br /><br />I suspect your reaction is against classifying teenagers as adults. Because, if I remember correctly, Laurence argued that men who go after 16 year olds are not peadophiles buy gay. Is that such a crazy idea? <br />I mean, there are some(outrageous) people who want the age of consent to be lowered to 14. I'm sure you're familiar with this. So what would that make a 14 year old boy? An adult perhaps? How convenient to be able to change the definition of a 'child' when it comes to sex.Pilgrimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-80085618279856532872010-05-25T13:47:18.011+01:002010-05-25T13:47:18.011+01:00Coffee_Catholic:
Thank you for your very deep re...Coffee_Catholic: <br /><br />Thank you for your very deep reflections on the fact that a 'condition' of homosexuality not being evil, but two men having anal sex being a ticket to hell. However, I am a bit confused about this insistence on the role of sex within marriage being a sure way to firm-up the family and attract the love of Christ. Did the Lord's son not say:<br /> <br />If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."(Luke 14:26-)<br /><br />"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me."(Matthew 10:34-37 and Luke 12:51-53)<br /><br />I think you should perhaps re-read your bible and pay more attention rather than spend so much time getting angry about the idea of two men having sex, it is obviously clouding your thoughtTouched by Godnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-66938287433608925122010-05-25T11:39:14.806+01:002010-05-25T11:39:14.806+01:00I posted the wrong scripture! Now if I was a '...I posted the wrong scripture! Now if I was a 'good old prod' (protestant) that would never have happened.<br /><br />Jesus said ........"The foremost is, 'Hear, O Israel! The Lord our God is one Lord; and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.' "The second is this, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no other commandment greater than these." (NAS, Mark 12:28-31)'<br /><br />No commandments ever known, or ever given to man, greater than the above two. Blimey! They're worth more than a glance over then.mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06962374096401238994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-64272893539103902512010-05-25T11:19:11.257+01:002010-05-25T11:19:11.257+01:00Coffee Catholic said
'Also, that same respect...Coffee Catholic said<br /><br />'Also, that same respect, compassion, and sensativity needs to be *returned* by gay activists. Harassing Catholics, attacking the Church, and engaging in all manner of aggressive "protests" does not, by any means, promote the love and acceptence that is demanded.'<br /><br />As Catholics, are taught to turn the other cheek when injured by word or deed. However, I much prefer to be convinced by reason, than subjected by force. I also try and offer this to others, when I am behaving myself and acting like a proper Christian (it does happen, now and again). It's a learning process for us all, surely, this 'love thy neighbour' commandment, and no-one and no group is excluded from trying to perfect loving one's neighbour according to church teaching.<br /><br />We will be judged on how well we have loved others, as ourselves. Christ himself said this.<br /><br />"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." (NIV, John 13:34-35)<br /><br />We can all use a bit of love, in this world, surely? Lets start with each other. To ALL who have commented here, whoever's comments have incensed you the most, say a hail Mary for them, right now, and see if your heart changes a little, in your attitude towards them. Only a suggestion of-course, I won't visit your family and talk about you, if you don't.<br />Power to the powerless!mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06962374096401238994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-55348442480954982072010-05-25T11:01:40.438+01:002010-05-25T11:01:40.438+01:00"They must be
ACCEPTED with respect, compassi..."They must be<br />ACCEPTED with respect, compassion, and sensitivity". (CCC, 2358)<br /><br />Nowhere does that say "the act of homosexual *sex* must be tolerated, excused, and allowed." <br /><br />Also, that same respect, compassion, and sensativity needs to be *returned* by gay activists. Harassing Catholics, attacking the Church, and engaging in all manner of aggressive "protests" does not, by any means, promote the love and acceptence that is demanded.Michelle Theresehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16185810008704682978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-80066140206271604962010-05-25T09:27:28.785+01:002010-05-25T09:27:28.785+01:00Exactly. It's God's Holy Church, not mine ...Exactly. It's God's Holy Church, not mine or any person's. I think that's part of the general misunderstanding.The Boneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10271719805983763595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-194068385920325352010-05-25T09:22:16.856+01:002010-05-25T09:22:16.856+01:00gay lobby representative said:
'keep digging ...gay lobby representative said:<br /><br />'keep digging lozza, it won't take much more to earn a gay demo on the doorstep of your church next sunday'<br /><br />Does Laurence have his own Church then? Or do you mean you will demonstrate outside the Church he attends? That sounds like blackmail, in order to stop his voice, because it isn't saying what you want to hear. It isn't saying what I particularly want to hear either, but I defend his right to have a voice, as I do all men.<br /><br />Serious question: Is this a tactic of the LGBT movement? I know nothing of the policies of the latter, but would be horrified to know that any kind of bullying someone into silence takes place. Laurence's Church and it's parishoners have hardly warranted such a demonstartion, surely?mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06962374096401238994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-33165335927219325202010-05-24T22:52:49.698+01:002010-05-24T22:52:49.698+01:00Pssst Laurence? I bet your fiancee have a cock?Pssst Laurence? I bet your fiancee have a cock?Cockadoodledoonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-12611351333903029522010-05-24T20:45:22.198+01:002010-05-24T20:45:22.198+01:00keep digging lozza, it won't take much more to...keep digging lozza, it won't take much more to earn a gay demo on the doorstep of your church next sundaygay lobby representativenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-69685957820521015582010-05-24T20:42:53.034+01:002010-05-24T20:42:53.034+01:00''I thought well wishers would be few in n...''I thought well wishers would be few in number''<br /><br />you can say that again you rancid snatch.persecute me (and see what you'll get!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-5711079117487317862010-05-24T20:37:15.038+01:002010-05-24T20:37:15.038+01:00''because we are entitled to ask what all ...''because we are entitled to ask what all of these Catholics are doing going to Mass and being so heavily involved in a political movement which seeks to undermine and subvert the Church.''<br /><br />who says that gay catholics or gay peoples generally are heavily involved in a political movement? that seems to be a huge assumption on your part. <br />you don't need to be part of a movement to be politically aware or able to soeak up for yourself.<br /><br />plus, don't think you're any less political than those you condemn. your article was a highly political statement.catholic politiciannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-211886074933422912010-05-24T20:18:49.967+01:002010-05-24T20:18:49.967+01:00Laurence - in my area there is a woman's choir...Laurence - in my area there is a woman's choir, a choir of people with learning disabilities, a caribbean gospel choir choir, an african choir plus i am sure many others.<br /><br />do you disagree with their discriminatory policies? what you seem to be about is your aversion to diversity.Gay men's choirnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-31321279872361204892010-05-24T20:13:01.716+01:002010-05-24T20:13:01.716+01:00''Wow, you've really hit a nerve with ...''Wow, you've really hit a nerve with the previous post. So much hatred in those comments. Some people just can't stand a bit of criticism, poor delicate things.''<br /><br />pilfrim - it wasn't criticsm it was downright offence. laurence said that gay people prey on youngsters, as you know the scientific literature shows that the proportion of peadophiles in the gay community is not greater than the general population. gay people are padophiles is an unfounded urban myth spread by homphobes like laurence.reply to pilgrimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-36108845584379716502010-05-24T20:05:54.866+01:002010-05-24T20:05:54.866+01:00If I were you, I would delete all the bullying com...If I were you, I would delete all the bullying comments, Laurence. Don't argue with people whose sole purpose is to make you upset. Pray for them and otherwise ignore them.<br /><br />Laurence, it seems that the only pupose of your post was to upset and bullying others. If you had ignored them and prayed for them in the first place then you would't be getting your collar felt.Common Sensenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-33744726855583572132010-05-24T20:02:55.957+01:002010-05-24T20:02:55.957+01:00The catholic chaplin at my school used to reguarly...The catholic chaplin at my school used to reguarly suck me off, didn't do me any harm. I did quite well out of it actually, I always got chosen for paid jobs like decorating and gardening. He had a big dick so wasn't so keen on blowing him though but then it it not better to give than recieve?Catholic and gay (by example)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-47313952490384323002010-05-24T18:02:00.646+01:002010-05-24T18:02:00.646+01:00Shadowlands makes some very good points.Shadowlands makes some very good points.The Boneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10271719805983763595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-10457804044361201642010-05-24T16:56:10.766+01:002010-05-24T16:56:10.766+01:00Wow, you've really hit a nerve with the previo...Wow, you've really hit a nerve with the previous post. So much hatred in those comments. Some people just can't stand a bit of criticism, poor delicate things. <br /><br />The more I read such things the less I feel for the gay community. Bullying is so unattractive.Pilgrimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-9027046407223377632010-05-24T16:48:06.888+01:002010-05-24T16:48:06.888+01:00If I were you, I would delete all the bullying com...If I were you, I would delete all the bullying comments, Laurence. Don't argue with people whose sole purpose is to make you upset. Pray for them and otherwise ignore them.<br /><br />(Just to clarify, I am not for one minute labelling shadowlands' respectful disagreement as bullying. I think she makes some good points.)stopbeingstupidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14860866633957025571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-44981302129888448952010-05-24T13:48:33.226+01:002010-05-24T13:48:33.226+01:00I thought well wishers would be few in number.
U...I thought well wishers would be few in number. <br /><br />Use your real name, Anonymous, as I do, otherwise I readers will suspect your vulgarity is equalled only by your cowardice.The Boneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10271719805983763595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-59124618426808248682010-05-24T13:44:54.941+01:002010-05-24T13:44:54.941+01:00"The Church both now and down the ages has ha..."The Church both now and down the ages has had heroic men and women with a same-sex attraction"<br /><br />Yeah no shit Sherlock - hitherto that observation I was assuming that the beardy-weirdy bent Irishman who presided over my local church as a child, or the mad-as-a-hatter 70 year old nun who spends her day locked in a convent with other women, were well adjusted heterosexual citizens who just happened to seek a life of self-abnegation, the company of their own sex, and a frankly mental doctrine of sin and evil. Enjoy wasting your life in a loveless marriage while fantasising about boys, I'm sure it will all be worth it when you die and God lets you into heaven for having a fucking miserable life on earthAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-22938247324930579182010-05-24T13:44:40.744+01:002010-05-24T13:44:40.744+01:00Someone called 'Randy' emailed me, I think...Someone called 'Randy' emailed me, I think, yesterday with an email entitled, 'About the Bones...'<br /><br />I deleted it accidently in my junk mail, so if you want to resend it try again.The Boneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10271719805983763595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-10071572387162352622010-05-24T13:23:27.379+01:002010-05-24T13:23:27.379+01:00Oh and by the way, if I want some random commenter...Oh and by the way, if I want some random commenters guidance who is so ashamed of his own identity that he can't bring himself to use his real name, on how to govern my personal life, I will ask for it.The Boneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10271719805983763595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-72784449556947792602010-05-24T13:21:26.334+01:002010-05-24T13:21:26.334+01:00Anonymous
Because there is, as yet, no pre-marita...Anonymous<br /><br />Because there is, as yet, no pre-marital sex group seeking to gain special recognition and rights within Holy Mother Church.<br /><br />I would not have felt impelled to write a blog post on the Rainbow Sash Movement, if it was not all too apparent that they are deliberately drawing attention to themselves and their desire for recognition in the Church, over and above the true mission of the Church, to preach Christ Crucified for the forgiveness of sins.<br /><br />Every man and woman, be he or she, gay or straight, has, in his or her Priest, a Confessor who can offer both Absolution for their sins and spiritual direction.<br /><br />The Church both now and down the ages has had heroic men and women with a same-sex attraction, as the Church still does today. As Catholics we are called to point to Christ who is the Way, the Truth and the Life, not ourselves.The Boneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10271719805983763595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-77792283802418507942010-05-24T12:22:42.588+01:002010-05-24T12:22:42.588+01:00Laurence, I do truly believe, that your personal t...Laurence, I do truly believe, that your personal testimony holds more power than your opinions, as indeed does each man and woman's. It contains your experience, what happened to you, what touched you, and changed you, and gave you hope and brought you into full comunion with Holy Mother Church. You can't argue with a man's experience, as it is a part of history, and therefore fact.<br /><br />The people you deem as 'heretics' may not have found the truths that your opinions proclaim, and therefore to judge them in such a manner as to term them 'heretics' is to claim that you can see their hearts. Are they deliberately and in full conscience calling truth (as we believe it) to be error.<br />Our judgments on others may turn out to be stumbling blocks in their own discovering of the Love Christ has for them, as they may sense, in our 'having a go at them,' that we are speaking Christ's thoughts to them, which of course we are not. <br /><br />I think George Herbert sums up very concisely and very gently, how most souls feel when sincerely approaching God for the first and umpteenth time. Certainly describes my experience, and why I continue to encourage all men and women of all persuasions to approach their heavenly Mother, who's love melts one's heart, the way love does. You know, that feeling of immense generosity of spirit that sweeps over you, when you first realise another human being truly loves you and that your whole existence, far from being meaningless, was planned to be for all eternity. Now that is the Good News of the gospel, a love that last forever, and heals you, slowly but surely, in a world full of lonely people, and OK, maybe some of the lonely people are actually heretics, but guess who loves heretics, and therefore we must too? Yeh, Jesus! I'll shutup now, I'm beginning to sound like Billy Graham, and post the poem by George Herbert. everyone reading, this is the Jesus I have met, as a person afflicted with many defects and issues. May you met Him too, today. May I always strive to be to others, what Christ has and is being, to me.<br /><br />"Love bade me welcome, yet my soul drew back<br />Guilty of dust and sin<br />Buy quick-eyed Love, observing me grow slack<br />From my first entrance in,<br />Drew nearer to me, sweetly questioning,<br />If I lack'd any thing.<br />A guest, I answer'd, worth to be here:<br />Love said, You shall be he.<br />I the unkind, ungrateful? Ah, my dear, I cannot look on thee.<br />Love took my hand, and smiling did reply,<br />Who made the eyes but I?<br />Truth, Lord, but I have marr'd them: let my shame<br />Go where it doth deserve.<br />And know you not, says Love, who bore the blame?<br />My dear, then I will serve.<br />You must sit down, says Love. And taste my meat<br />So I did sit and eat."<br /><br />-- George Herbertmehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06962374096401238994noreply@blogger.com