tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post3957817458869438746..comments2024-01-08T10:10:48.074+00:00Comments on That The Bones You Have Crushed May Thrill: Claiming FrancisThe Boneshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10271719805983763595noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-82288887691566770512013-03-18T00:56:57.219+00:002013-03-18T00:56:57.219+00:00That was wonderful!That was wonderful!Siobhanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02480248372805511882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-46358446792201117192013-03-17T15:05:17.760+00:002013-03-17T15:05:17.760+00:00I hope Pope Francis gives Mahony his P45 and asks ...I hope Pope Francis gives Mahony his P45 and asks him to hand himself in at the nearest police station. That would be true Catholic humility but Mahony is incapable of it.<br /><br />As for Mickens & Co I wonder if we''ll see the start of a Tablet soup kitchen so that they can do their bit for the poor. Catherine Pepinster and Tina Beattie could even set the example and wash the feet of the poor and homeless instead of sitting on their backsides all day writing articles railing against the "ermine and furs" Church afraid of "revolution". Then again maybe not. They're too busy hob-nobbing with Bishops at the top table and enjoying the trappings and attention of being a media Catholic to worry about all that. <br /><br />I notice also that Cormac who's been making more and more appearances on TV recently and seems delighted we have a humble Pope is another one who doesn't exactly walk the talk. Given a choice of where to retire to where does he go? Fashionable white middle-class Chiswick. Not exactly the choice of St. Francis of Assisi who one suspects would have gone to dirty dusty multi-cultural Dalston Junction and lived on a park bench with the poor.BJChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07593104081224026799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-32810943373491600672013-03-17T14:51:34.224+00:002013-03-17T14:51:34.224+00:00The problem though is that you are using two liber... The problem though is that you are using two liberals and St. Francis' place in cultural history to discredit the choice of simplicity in externals. This problem subsequent to St. Francis has split the Cistercians into two observances and the Carmelites into two observances. It is a deep division point potentially and one could imagine future biblically conservative youth within Catholicism going further away from red shoes and bejewelled crosses. The plush as you point out symbolizes God's majesty; the simple or non plush symbolizes the poor Christ better ( He allowed the plush nard only for His burial not for His lifestyle). Should the Church feature the majesty of God or the poverty of Christ at its headquarters? If Pope Francis uses Castel Gandolfo as a half way house for the mentally ill or pregnant sinners, will you feel despoiled?<br />I would only warn that carnality is a problem in the history of the plush at Rome. Saints could have affirmed the plush but certainly nepotistic Popes who effectively enriched their families also affirmed the plush. Both groups had an orientation to the Old Testament ( your majesty of God) that ironically fades in recent Popes (see section 42 of Verbum Domini wherein Benedict implies that the massacres of the OT<br />were sins rather than the antecedent will of God that scripture avers). The future could go Pope Francis' way toward simplicity through not liberals but through future generations who get biblically conservative not about the OT but about the NT. The Popes of the Rennaissance in some cases saw OT despoiling as ok by Portugal e.g. Romanus Pontifex, mid 4th large par. It led to the rich poor divide of Latin America with 3 subsequent Popes affirming it in writing. That OT conservatism was part of the plush papacy as was despoiling at that time...few saints even questioned it.<br />The despoiling by Catholic nations is over for good thanks to history and that makes future biblical conservatism among young Catholics narrowed to the NT. They will not incline to despoiling thank God but neither to the plushness of Solomon's temple. So the future I'm saying is a donnybrook....it could go either way. I doubt that Latin Masses are extensive outside of Caucasian Catholicism. Am I incorrect therein?<br />bill bannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09737277581167437670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-80376514214920265492013-03-17T02:27:30.840+00:002013-03-17T02:27:30.840+00:00I enjoy and appreciate your informative and well-w...I enjoy and appreciate your informative and well-written blog. Thank you for sharing your gift of the Holy Spirit. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11974177636805657825noreply@blogger.com