tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post5123377918932783231..comments2024-01-08T10:10:48.074+00:00Comments on That The Bones You Have Crushed May Thrill: Chinese Bishop, Imprisoned for Decades, Dies At 90The Boneshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10271719805983763595noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-44982513762292464232011-03-01T21:27:55.268+00:002011-03-01T21:27:55.268+00:00God rest the soul of His good and faithful servant...God rest the soul of His good and faithful servant.georgemnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-76299628143244585622011-02-28T22:11:16.787+00:002011-02-28T22:11:16.787+00:00I am, though probably we would disagree on matters...I am, though probably we would disagree on matters of faith. But who is to say what real Islam is? I mean, most of your own disputations concern who may say what real Catholicism is (the pope, obviously, but outside of his encyclicals we are left with some negotiation).<br /> <br />Anyway, my point is that fundamentalist messages that subvert the state in the UK are (rightly) prohibited. The Chinese state has repeatedly upheld that Catholicism is a 'non-natural' religion, that it is not in conformity with nature or tradition (that is, with Chinese values as they have been understood historically), and that its messages are antithetical to the Chinese State. This last one is a moot point, but I guess you could say that if it is a sacred duty to uphold humanae vitae then this is a duty that will necessarily come into conflict with the chinese state. Don't get me wrong - I don't agree with their values. But I don't see why, given that they clearly DO hold these values, there is anything unusual in their response to Catholicism. I guess we think it's strange, but then I guess an Afghan Wahhabi complains about the decadent West's refusal to allow his messages in. <br /><br />I suppose my point is that it's a bit rich to hold that preserving Christian values in the West is necessary while also believing that no other culture should react against Rome imposing foreign values on their own sacred traditionsMarknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-50405710757883321432011-02-28T21:42:00.004+00:002011-02-28T21:42:00.004+00:00No, but people are free to practise Islam here are...No, but people are free to practise Islam here aren't they? Unless you are suggesting that REAL Islam is suicide bombing the local shopping mall or something. You don't sound like a Catholic.The Boneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10271719805983763595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389530333077823143.post-32715488093066019532011-02-28T20:56:48.554+00:002011-02-28T20:56:48.554+00:00I sort of agree with the Chinese on this one. I me...I sort of agree with the Chinese on this one. I mean, it's not a Christian country. We (that is, Great Britain) don't allow free-reign to Islamic fundamentalists who seek to subvert the social order. The Papal proclamations undermine the Chinese State's authority, and since it's not a Christian, let alone Catholic country, why would they allow a foreign religious leader to subvert their authority?Marknoreply@blogger.com