Nelson Mandela RIP



Such was Jesus's response to one person who called Him 'good'. His response seems to say, 'Do not use the word 'good', since God alone is good. Know that if you call me good, you call me God!'

It seems relevant to the much expected hysteria surrounding Nelson Mandela's death.

May he rest in peace, but comparisons to Jesus Christ tell us more about what the World thinks of Jesus Christ than it does about what the World thinks of Nelson Mandela.

Mr Mandela was many things to many people, but the Second Person of the Trinity he was not.

Comments

Seaneinn said…
Thank you I thought it was just me I am absolutely appalled by Osbournes blog in your telegraph. Glad to see there are a few people on the planet not taken in.
Seaneinn said…
Thanks you I thought it was just me who thinks this whole circus should move out of town as soon as possible
Left-footer said…
He was in favour of unrestricted abortion. For me, that alone puts his beyond the pale.

I see The Pope is reported as lauding the “commitment” of the political icon’s efforts promoting human dignity as well as unity in the country, the pontiff also prayed “that the late President’s example will inspire generations of South Africans to put justice and the common good at the forefront of their political aspirations.”

So abortion is a part of justice and the common good!

Huh!
Philip Totten said…
I have read the telegraph piece and it doesn't suggest that nelson mandela was Christ, only that he was Christ-like. As Christians we are called to be like Christ. I think nelson mandela exhibited many of the virtues of Christ (ie Christians virtues) such as compassion, forgiveness and charity. As far as I can tell, the only people who appear to be critical of the popular grief being expressed are the types who didn't want to see apartheid being contested and overcome.
Lynda said…
One can't introduce a "law" providing for the killing of innocent, defenceless children in utero (in the millions) and be "Christ-like".
Left-footer said…
Lynda - Hear! Hear! Bravo!
Philip Totten said…
Left-footer & Lynda - Nelson Mandela did not introduce any abortion laws. However he did ratify them once the parliament had passed them which he was constitutionally obliged to do as President. There is a big difference.

Indeed he was Christ-like in many ways although, of course, not in a perfect way. If it had not been for Mandela then there would not be a thriving democracy in South Africa and there would have been tremendous bloodshed and societal collapse.
Rhoslyn said…
Mandela passed a very liberal abortion law in SA 2 years after his election. The law includes forced abortion for mentally disabled women.

He was not only NOT Christ-like, I think he was a bad person. He deserves our prayers because he had a soul and was made in God's image like the rest of us, but he certainly doesn't deserve praise.
Lynda said…
That's the point - he and his party and government caused the bloodshed of numerous innocent, defenceless babies.
Philip Totten said…
Sorry Rhoslyn but that is a lie. Mandela did not pass any abortion laws, the democratically elected parliament did. He is not personally responsible.

Why do you think he was a ''bad'' person? Do you think that a fundamentally unjust civil system which brutally kept the majority of it's citizens in a subservient position - economically and electorally deprived is a good thing? If it wasn't for Mandela that would probably still be the case today.
ATDP said…
From Lifesitenews:

“May God rest Nelson Mandela, the former president of South Africa who died last night, but it is absolutely vital that Catholic leaders do not allow themselves to become respecters of persons, swept away by personality cults."

Mr Mandela has been quoted as saying on abortion: “Women have the right to decide what they want to do with their bodies.”

http://www.lifenews.com/2013/12/06/unfortunately-nelson-mandela-signed-law-legalizing-unlimited-abortions/
Rhoslyn said…
But there's no need to disregard all the good work he did simply because he supported a liberal abortion law. I mean, he was still a great man, right? Look, abortion is really not that much of an issue. It's *only* child slaughter, just calm down.
Mandela is definitely in heaven and he's probably Christ's right hand man. He's probably convincing Christ of the advantages of communism right now. Desmond Tutu is next in line for one of the top posts in heaven - a real inspiration to us all, especially all his work promoting contraception, abortion and 'gay rights'.

Look at South Africa now - it's pretty much the land of the free! Mandela made everything great and they have no problems at all now. Except for that whole 1 in 3 men admitting to rape at least once and there still being massive inequality and corruption in government, theft, murder - minor things. Apart from that, they are all doing really well.
Anthony Ozimic said…
For clarity regarding Mandela's level of complicity re abortion: Mandela has been quoted as saying on abortion: "Women have the right to decide what they want to do with their bodies." In 1996, Mandela signed into law the Choice on Termination of Pregnancy Bill, which permits abortion on demand. SPUC's pro-life colleagues in South Africa tells us that the bill was introduced into the South African parliament by Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma, Mr Mandela's health minister. In addition, the wording of the new South African constitution, signed by Mr Mandela in 1996, had made the legalisation of abortion on demand a mere formality. Mr Mandela's African National Congress (ANC) has a strong ideological committment to abortion, with the ANC Women's League strongly behind the legalisation of abortion on demand. The ANC has for decades been in a close political and electoral alliance with the South African Communist Party (SACP) (Mr Mandela pictured with SACP leader Joe Slovo) which also has a strong ideological committment to abortion.
Philip Totten said…
Rhoslyn, South Africa has many social problems but it's not really surprising considering it's history. Violence begets violence and it was an extremely brutal regime under Apartheid. Many black women and children (and some men) were raped and sexually tortured by the white minority and that cycle of violence continues today. One of Mandela's virtues was to try and foster forgiveness and reconciliation so democracy could flourish. he was fairly successful in this, particularly relative to other African republics around that region. The governments formed since he left office have been more split and partisan but I don't know any country that doesn't have any problems.
Rhoslyn said…
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Rhoslyn said…
"Violence begets violence" I totally agree!

Now I see why Mandela thought it was really important that society be able to violently murder children in the womb (albeit in a nice sanitised environment - 'safe' abortion is just so important)...because he was trying to foster a society of peace. Thanks Phillip, it's all crystal clear to me now.